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My thoughts exactly. We spend so much time worrying about others, when we have our own issues that are being ignored.
Someplace in Vaterland
- Hello, Hans.
- Guten Morgen, boss.
- You worked well this year, Hans, I have followed your work and I can tell that you're done.
- Hello, Hans.
- Guten Morgen, boss.
- You worked well this year, Hans, I have followed your work and I can tell that you're done.
- Thank you, boss.
- But I have bad news for you. The fact is that we can not pay you a Christmas bonus.
- But why? What's wrong?
- You know, we expect the unexpected losses. And they are very important, I dread, as if it was not necessary to reduce our staff.
- What's up, boss? This is so unexpected!
- Russia shuts their sky, Hans, and you know what that means ..
- But why, boss? We have also never had any problems with the Russians ..
- Well, we have imposed sanctions against their carrier, and in response, they close their sky.
- And why we have imposed sanctions?
- To support the Ukrainians.
- Who ?? !!!
- Ukraine, Hans. A country that steals our gas annually. And now there is war in Ukraine.
- From Russia?
- No, they are at war with themselves!
- And what have Russians?
- Russia must stop this war, but does not do so.
- I'm a little confused, the boss ..
- Never mind, it's all politics, and have little regard. Importantly, that Ukraine wants to be with us, and we should support it.
- We will give visas for the Ukrainians?
- I do not think so.
- We will build a business with them?
- It is unlikely.
- We'll give them credits?
- I strongly doubt. In general, I think we'll stay away from them. This whole situation smells great challenges, and Germany do not need them.
- That is, our support will be in the fact that our company just suffer losses? And I'll be without a Christmas bonus?
- Well, something like that.
- I understand completely stopped, the boss ...
- Hans, this is all very difficult, I do not quite understand. But the fact is that we have been asked by our American partners, this is their project ..
- Oh f**k !!!!
- In general, you're right, Hans, I do think about that when everything learned.
- F**king Obama and his servants!
- You do not say ...
This is why I don't read ANY newspaper. A newspaper that is called "Independant" is calling the native Ukrainians and their government "Neo-Nazis" and "Neo-Fascists".
There is propaganda on both sides. The governments control the news/media, the news/media control the people.
There is propaganda on both sides. The governments control the news/media, the news/media control the people.
Rebels destroyed Ukrainian military unit
Very interesting from 0'30" to 0'40"
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Propaganda from all sides - a la guerre comme a la guerre
Very interesting from 0'30" to 0'40"
"It would be best if the Ukrainian artillery destroyed the phantom, and not refugees or their own troops" - said Russian Ministry of Defence spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov.
Propaganda from all sides - a la guerre comme a la guerre
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Haswell
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Fifteen bodies were found on the place of yesterday's rocket attack of convoy with refugees from Luhansk, announced by Ukranian military spokesman.
By yesterday evening, we found 15 bodies. The search was continued during the night and it continues today, said to Reuters by spokesman Andrei Lysenko.
For the attack, Kiev accused pro-Russian separatists, but they are denying the accusations.
Ukranian military annonuced on Monday that many people who died, including women and children, were burned beyond recognition.
American State Department judges the attack, but they can not confirm who is responsible.
We strongly condemn the artillery attack on convoy... It is sad. People were trying to get away from the attacks, but, instead of that, they became the victims, says spokeswoman of State Department - Marie Harf.
Translated from here.
As we can see, the interview with people in the bomb shelter from 0'15" to 0'30" filmed by rebels (logotype of Novorossia in the left corner above). These civilian people covers for two weeks underground cause their town bombed by Kiev military forces with Grad MLR, cluster bombs and phosphorus munitions. I sure that killing of 50 civilian refugees is a next military crime made by Kiev junta against Donbass people.
The full version of interview with civilians in Ilovaysk town:
"Ukrainian military exhibit cruelty inherent in the Nazis during World War II, said a spokesman of the People's Republic of Lugansk Vladimir Inogorodsky. He said that in the village Novosvetlovka under Lugansk civilians were shot when they refused to work for the Ukrainian invaders - to dig trenches and build fortifications around the church.
As told the commander of a reconnaissance unit of Lugansk rebels, Ukrainians drove the people into the church and its mined with land-mines. Because of the threat for life of civilians, rebels can not enter the village to free it."
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so, the canadien Nato delegation wanted to make fun russia after 10 soldiers crossed into ukrainien turf, moscow said it was an accident. so canadas nato delegation posted this map in a tweet to teach russians geography.
i would say that VIOLENTLY backfired, how much the canadien nato delegation knows about europes geography can be messured by the fact that apperently, in their eyes, Kaliningrad seems to be part of the EU now
i would say that VIOLENTLY backfired, how much the canadien nato delegation knows about europes geography can be messured by the fact that apperently, in their eyes, Kaliningrad seems to be part of the EU now
Weeeelll, only that blue territory is marked as "not Russia", all the white lands seem to be unclaimed = apparently, Russian army can go there.so, the canadien Nato delegation wanted to make fun russia after 10 soldiers crossed into ukrainien turf, moscow said it was an accident. so canadas nato delegation posted this map in a tweet to teach russians geography.
i would say that VIOLENTLY backfired, how much the canadien nato delegation knows about europes geography can be messured by the fact that apperently, in their eyes, Kaliningrad seems to be part of the EU now
There is satellite proof of far more than just 10 soldiers deliberately crossing into Ukraine. To say you accidentally crossed another county's border is pure
http://www.businessinsider.com/nato-satellite-photo-evidence-russia-lying-about-ukraine-2014-8
Russians have had artillery inside Ukraine since late July. You obviously just believe whatever excuse for an excuse that they give, so that makes you
You don't understand the gravity of the situation, being tucked 3-4 borders away from Russia and all. If they go and grab the land where all the Russian speakers live as they did with Crimea, then Romania will border Russia. Given the recent events, that's totally not cool.
(No offence to you, Mike, I just don't like what your country's military is doing so close to where I live.)
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yep its all explore and settle^^Weeeelll, only that blue territory is marked as "not Russia", all the white lands seem to be unclaimed = apparently, Russian army can go there.
but on a serious note: what astonishes me is that a international organisation as big as nato cant get a simple map right...
@Kreubs
what are you talking about? my post was simply about that the canadien nato delegation cant get a simple map right. and it was posted BECAUSE of those 10 soldieres, that is why i mentioned it, for the purpose of context. and if u read my post again, i never stated my opinion on wether i believe that the russian soldiers crossed on accident or not.
also nato satellite images have a history of suiting their best interest, and before you go on a rant, i didnt say that i reject the possibility that russians have crossed into ukraine. i didnt state any opinion on whos right and whos wrong exept canadien nato
all in all i think your reply was somewhat uncalled for and completly unrelated, claiming that i just blindly believe whatever. what do you know of my sources of news? what do you know of the time i spent digging into politics?
i promise you that i get my information on more places then the kremlin and news with a pro-russian slant. however YOU seem to be drawn to anti-russian bias. and in the search for facts i advise you to consume nato satellite images with caution.
just like that anti jewish propaganda you posted about, also something i advised you to enjoy with caution, but i bet you newer followed the story long enough to find out what became of it. u prolly read it, said thats it, and never cared to look at it again, since you, never came around this thread to acknowledge that the seperatists never enforced such things, and never held antisemetic opinions. just like kerry, he never cared to mention the story again once it had served its purpose of dragging the seperatists in the dirt.
so how about taking it easy with the allegations?
/peace