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mousquet

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2 - is the Ukrainian Army who shot down the plane and there is a state crime to be severely sanctioned by the UN
Sanctions had arrived to Kiev Borispol airport today:
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US Airforce C-17 «Globemaster III» heavy military cargo plane bring 78 tons of sanctions for Kiev junta...
 

Storky

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Ukraine controls most of the data, how's that gonna be independent (even if there will be any "investigation" at all, in the true meaning of the word)
Didn't the pro-russian seperatists hold the data for ages and stop the independent reviewers get to the scene?
 

mousquet

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Didn't the pro-russian seperatists hold the data for ages and stop the independent reviewers get to the scene?
Flight recorders were delivered to Great Britan about one month ago. And it is obviously that rebels has not records of air traffic controllers with Boeing crew conversations, but Ukrainian authorities only. But they hide these records for more than month.
 

Storky

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Flight recorders were delivered to Great Britan about one month ago. And it is obviously that rebels has not records of air traffic controllers with Boeing crew conversations, but Ukrainian authorities only. But they hide these records for more than month.
No, before the flight recorders were delivered to GBR, they were held by the pro-Russian separatists and did not allow access to the ruins of the plane. This went on for the first 2 weeks.
 

mousquet

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No, before the flight recorders were delivered to GBR, they were held by the pro-Russian separatists and did not allow access to the ruins of the plane. This went on for the first 2 weeks.
Reported that flight recorders were not damaged, so what is wrong?
Obviously battles were not broken for investigation. But what about audio records of Air Traffic Controllers?
 

Storky

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It is true that the flight recorders were reported to not be tampered with. It is still suspicious why they did not hand them over at first, and they did not allow access to the ruins for a week. You cannot surely believe that it does not look suspicious.

I don't know what happened with the audio recordings of the Air Traffic Controllers. Surely the Ukrainian government has them. Were they released?

Did you know they have a phone call recording of the separatists claiming that they had shot down a military plane? Then they realised that the plane wasn't military, but civilian, and told everyone in their group to keep it quiet. This could have been faked by the Ukrainian Government but it might be true.
 

mousquet

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It is true that the flight recorders were reported to not be tampered with. It is still suspicious why they did not hand them over at first, and they did not allow access to the ruins for a week. You cannot surely believe that it does not look suspicious.

I don't know what happened with the audio recordings of the Air Traffic Controllers. Surely the Ukrainian government has them. Were they released?

Did you know they have a phone call recording of the separatists claiming that they had shot down a military plane? Then they realised that the plane wasn't military, but civilian, and told everyone in their group to keep it quiet. This could have been faked by the Ukrainian Government but it might be true.
1. Audio records of ATC never were realised.
2. Phone call is a fake. It was mounted from different calls. This was demonstrated after some days.[DOUBLEPOST=1409693816][/DOUBLEPOST]1* I mean released
 

Storky

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1. Audio records of ATC never were realised.
2. Phone call is a fake. It was mounted from different calls. This was demonstrated after some days.[DOUBLEPOST=1409693816][/DOUBLEPOST]1* I mean released
Got a source for 2?
 

Nikon

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It is not unusual for ATC conversations to not be released until after the investigation has been completed, or even not be released at all.
 

mousquet

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Got a source for 2?
It was widely shown on Russian TV with audio records of this call and experts comments. They showed analysis of audio with software and pointed that it is fake. i dont record TV programs.[DOUBLEPOST=1409753586][/DOUBLEPOST]
It is not unusual for ATC conversations to not be released until after the investigation has been completed, or even not be released at all.
This is another event. Because of military crime is suspected, all the pieces of evidence to be released independly of technical (aviation authorities) investigation.
 

mousquet

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According Russian Federal Immigration Service, for August 30, since April into Russia "entered primary and still there about 820 thousand citizens of Ukraine." More than 130 thousand were asked to provide them temporary asylum or refugee status. 108 thousand of them have been granted this status".
 

mousquet

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Compare 2 photos
1. Ukrainian president Yanukovich flown Paris in 2010.
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2. Ukrainian president Poroshenko flown Paris in 2015
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theGenius

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nice to see some life here again. anyone else that read some month ago that poroschenko apointed mikheil saakashvili governour of odessa... in order to fight coruption? for those of you who still are pondering over that name: hes ex president of georgia, the guy almost succeded in starting a full blown war with russia, wanted georgia in nato, is bff with mccain and fled his own contry because of curruption charges.... yeah that guy! wth is happening???
 

Joonikko

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Compare 2 photos
1. Ukrainian president Yanukovich flown Paris in 2010.
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2. Ukrainian president Poroshenko flown Paris in 2015
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Maybe it has something to do with the changed security situation and placing rows and rows of soldiers in parade gear & in one place isn't a good idea.
 

mousquet

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Maybe it has something to do with the changed security situation and placing rows and rows of soldiers in parade gear & in one place isn't a good idea.
Scheme of the official dinner layout after the end of summit. We see that presidents of Peru and Senegal are invited, but Ukraine is not.
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BluBirD78

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Might be off target but man I gotta give Putin a thumbs up, first he comes out says that ISIS is a problem (which Obama said is contained), then bombs the shit out of their main money supplies, the export of oil and the help of (guns with ammo from the Western World), and now this article comes up that now he is to ban GMO crops because fake food is just that, its fake, I know Russia has been a Communist country but this guy sure seems like he cares about the citizens of the country.

https://www.rt.com/business/324605-russia-putin-healthy-food/

P.S. Just to add if things keep going like this, I may move to Russia and become a citizen there and learn Russian!
 

DamageINC

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I'm all for non GMO.

It was put on the ballot here in OR, but the public being the public voted it down. It was razor thin, but in the end big money won out (more was spent on this measure by big food than any other initiative) Now we have modified Salmon ffs. Half the stuff in big retail is falsely labeled as well. Why does this happen? The head of the FDA is the head lobbyist (and a former exec) of Monsanto. :smh:
 
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