The AVC/PwnSauce Scandal

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517Houston

|KKK| Gaming Legend
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BTW Pwnsauce is totally like one of the worst moderators ever.

The only reason he doesn't get demoted is because he had other valuable skills. But seriously, you need to look at how many pwnsauce bans were overturned. The guy is freakin stubborn and ignorant when it comes to detecting hackers.
And he said I was the bad mod? I believe he's had way more bans overturned than anyone and I'm still waiting to see all those bans I made that had to be overturned.

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So much for the Officer and a Gentleman thing.. He's a disgrace to his Uniform
 

Ethan

Captain
Former Krew Member
First, I will say I am completey shocked. I cannot describe how I feel right now. AVC was the first admin I played with, which was on zombies, and Pwn was one of the most fun to play with, talk with, and claymore with.
The Krew has taken a big hit with them being booted, but I'm also shocked that two guys that stuck around the Krew for a long time, helped Wally greatly, and gave us some good laughs and friendships would leave like this.

To create a new Pro clan? What game? It doesn't make sense to me.

Is it April 1st or something?

Secondly, I don't want to discredit anything these men have done to get the Krew to where it is today. Recruiting, Komps, Staffing- You name it, these dudes did contribute in many ways. I don't think WaLLy could of done all this alone. That is what makes this even more of a shame.

Finally, while wishing them, which at one point were my friends, luck in life, I just have to ask: Why?

Congratulations. You've done something that every clan leader in every game fears- Betrayal.

I'm a 16 year old kid, but I'm disappointed, and hopefully, that means something...if even just to me.

I'm currently in a guild for GW2. Have been since August.

I'd love to say I care less about what position I am in, but I know that I will stick with WaLLy, even if not in the Krew and playing another game more than COD4.
 

animal66

Second Lieutenant
Member of the Year
|K3|Super-Moderator
Gary =>>> admin
moment =>>> super.

<3

Totally agree, but we need to give Wally time to think. It's obvious that this has hit him hard, and his head is going to be all over the place right now.

When you're ready Wally.
 

MikeK

Vodka supplier
|K3| Member
I'd love to say I care less about what position I am in, but I know that I will stick with WaLLy, even if not in the Krew and playing another game more than COD4.

Then join back :p
You'r still more active than some members
 

Finch

|KKK|'s Epic Chef
|K3| Member
Gary =>>> admin
moment =>>> super.

<3

Your forgot Finch=>>> N00b-Mod

But seriously Gary would do great as an admin he really keeps the krew together with his dedication and loyalty.
It's not my call though..
 

Jack

|KKK|s Sexiest Voice
|K3| Member
I wouldn't be surprised if promotions were the last thing on wallys mind, I mean he just lost 2 admins, he's still wondering who he can trust etc. New admins and supers will come when the time is right, I think it might be wiser to maybe see what little responsibilities we can all help out with so that the current admins are able to focus on more important issues, like instead of someone becoming a Komp admin, maybe just have a Komp coordinator, things like that.
I dont know if that makes complete sense, I just think we should focus more on helping wally with whatever he need rather than wanting those spots to be filled right away.
 

animal66

Second Lieutenant
Member of the Year
|K3|Super-Moderator
I wouldn't be surprised if promotions were the last thing on wallys mind, I mean he just lost 2 admins, he's still wondering who he can trust etc. New admins and supers will come when the time is right, I think it might be wiser to maybe see what little responsibilities we can all help out with so that the current admins are able to focus on more important issues, like instead of someone becoming a Komp admin, maybe just have a Komp coordinator, things like that.
I dont know if that makes complete sense, I just think we should focus more on helping wally with whatever he need rather than wanting those spots to be filled right away.

Very well said Jack, couldn't have put it better myself.
 

ManuelBook

|K3|'s Horror Fanatic
Former Krew Member
I wouldn't be surprised if promotions were the last thing on wallys mind, I mean he just lost 2 admins, he's still wondering who he can trust etc. New admins and supers will come when the time is right, I think it might be wiser to maybe see what little responsibilities we can all help out with so that the current admins are able to focus on more important issues, like instead of someone becoming a Komp admin, maybe just have a Komp coordinator, things like that.
I dont know if that makes complete sense, I just think we should focus more on helping wally with whatever he need rather than wanting those spots to be filled right away.

I definitely agree with you.
No one should be asking about promotions at the moment.
Things are seem to be rough right now.
It actually explains quite a lot though. They have been very inactive lately.
I for one am keeping my loyalty to the group. :D
Really glad I'm here
 

NickHouston

WaLLy's Personal Favorite Krew Member
|K3| Member
|K3| Media Team
Lets all try and help out WaLLy as much as we can.
I'm gonna be more active now so I'll be modding the servers a bit.
I'd take care of some of the Facebook stuff but my password no longer works:/


OT: I never said this but I never really liked Pwn. He was very arrogant. He was constantly focused on himself and his huge ego. The only reason I never called him out is because he was effective. He helped WaLLy out and I didn't want to cause trouble.
 

The Moment

|K3|Recruit Admin
|K3| Executive
Now I think we have a right to be angry at these guys, but ripping their character like this isn't helping anything. Sure you can dislike someone, but judging someone over the internet is a little unnecessary.
 

PwnSauce

Banned
I'm actually really glad this came out. I had been working on either a retirement post or a PM for the senior staff, just hadn't proceeded so this makes it easy.

Here's the story. After Afghanistan in 2010, I started playing on S1 with Caveadsum, Brian, Blu and Damage and the others. Fun bunch of people, and for about two years it was great.

I put a huge amount of effort into the krew and progressed from mod, super then admin and it was fun. I was dedicated to building this place out; I recruited lots of people, made donations, organized events like profile competitions and other events. Basically did my best to help YOU, Walter, build out your clan. It was fun for about two years. Lots of laughs. (The whole reason I play COD and hung out here)

Then, starting around a year ago Wally starts publicly berating me in the shout, ignoring me, leaving me the staff admin out of key decisions. Even started a little clique called "Executives" happily leaving me out. It turned into a very unfriendly environment yet I stuck it out for a year hoping things would get better. It didn't

After a while his behavior really got old but I was just waiting to see if he'd talk about it like an adult but instead it was just this steady stream of bullshit like this in the shout: (Wish I had screencapped more of them. It was almost daily)
wallycawk.png


It's really difficult to be enthusiastic and supportive of an organization who's founder treats you or others like this.

So, Joint Forces Krew stemmed out of the unfriendly environment YOU created Walter. I just hadn't gotten around to retiring my position yet.
I was planning on 20 April 2013 as a departure date. We'll have to move that up a bit.

You can blame yourself Walt for creating the conditions for this decision. You should have had the common decency and maturity to at least talk to me about why you were conducting yourself that way so we could work things out and move forward.

Anyhow, we go hot on 20 April with servers on both Atlantic and Pacific coasts of the US already online. May even stand up servers in the EU and Australia.
Recruiting on gaming sites begins in April and we'll see how that goes.

Don't blame the others or Andy. I put the idea out there so this was my thing alone.

Not sure where you got the whole "Pro" clan thing.
I only ever just wanted a fun, friendly place to hang out and play games as friends.

Anyhow, exactly as I said in my introduction 3+ years ago, "I will stay with the krew as long as it's a fun and friendly environment."
Well, it stopped being that a long time ago so we're done.

Best wishes to you all. It was mostly really fun.

Greg
 
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