Xfire requirement for KKK staff.

[TheDude]

I know I'm not a member but I thought I would give my two cents. If a mod registers for xfire but doesn't download it, then how would they be able to mesasge other people in the game? If WaLLy made every mod register for xfire, then you might just have a bunch of mods with an xfire account but not using it. I don't know if that would solve your problem man.

Like i said, the hope is that after registering, they will take the 5 minutes or less that is necessary to download the program and install it. Requiring them to make an xfire account would just be like putting one foot in the door. Of course they can just not get teh software if its too much of a problem for some reason. Also, i all mods have an account already, then if the krew as a whole decides that staff should be required to actually have the software, they will already have a Username and password and itll all be set up, well have a list of all their xfire info.

First of all, it's not just wally making everyone register, should that happen. This would be a Krew decision. Wally involves the entire krew in decisions that affect the entire krew almost always. Then, if we decided all staff must register on xfire, but do not have to download the program, and then the entire staff ended up not having the program and just having an account, then we would....... just do exactly what weve been doing and i dont see a problem. LOL, i mean it takes like 10 minutes TOTAL to register, get the software, install it, and login to it. It takes less time to just register. I would hope that our mods wouldn't be whining about that.

@ Wally - Xfire automatically changes your status to AWAY after 5 minutes of inactivity by default. It's configurable.

 

[CiTyCHiLD]

Like i said, the hope is that after registering, they will take the 5 minutes or less that is necessary to download the program and install it. Requiring them to make an xfire account would just be like putting one foot in the door. Of course they can just not get teh software if its too much of a problem for some reason. Also, i all mods have an account already, then if the krew as a whole decides that staff should be required to actually have the software, they will already have a Username and password and itll all be set up, well have a list of all their xfire info.

First of all, it's not just wally making everyone register, should that happen. This would be a Krew decision. Wally involves the entire krew in decisions that affect the entire krew almost always. Then, if we decided all staff must register on xfire, but do not have to download the program, and then the entire staff ended up not having the program and just having an account, then we would....... just do exactly what weve been doing and i dont see a problem. LOL, i mean it takes like 10 minutes TOTAL to register, get the software, install it, and login to it. It takes less time to just register. I would hope that our mods wouldn't be whining about that.

@ Wally - Xfire automatically changes your status to AWAY after 5 minutes of inactivity by default. It's configurable.

Okay I see what you are talking about.

 

[BluBirD78]

All i can say is wow, basically stateing we should or have to get these accounts. I also think like was said how many of us would do it and use it anyways? I do have xfire account but never use it, and if this becomes a requirement then I may resign my position. For me, why would i want to work 12 hrs in a day and come home to find 20 messages on xfire to ban someone, aint gonna happen.

 

[Take]

Yeah, we all can go on steam instead of xfire...

 

[TheDude]

If it takes 5 minutes to register an account, even if you won't use the program anyway, what is the big problem? So register, do not download the software. End of story. Everyone's happy. There is no obligation to use the xfire service. I think asking the entire staff to register will end up getting more people to use the program, but there is no forcing people to use it. I do not know how many times i have to say that. I did not propose that. If you wish to make a thread concerned with forcing people to USE or DOWNLOAD xfire, then do so. This is NOT the topic of discussion here. This is not the beginning of a slippery slope to KKK socialism. Let's be reasonable and realistic.

2. Steam is cool, but xfire has a lot of really useful features. CoD4 is a nonsteam game for instance. On xfire, if i see a friend playing cod4, I can just double click the server name in their status and Cod4 will launch and connect to that server automtically. 2ndly, the server browser displays who is in the server, what their ping is, and what score they have. Unlike the server windows on this site, you can refresh each servers information every 2 seconds if you wish to with xfire.

Xfire or steam use will also allow people to see a mod in a server when they are undercover. If i am in server 1 and i don't see a mod, i go to check what mods are online in xfire. Damageinc and takeaway are online. Damage is not running any game. Takeaway is running cod4, and is in server 1, just undercover. So now i don't have to make damage start up cod4 and get on the server, and instead i can just kindly notify takeaway of the problem, as he is already in the server. Things LIKE this would be very nice, don't you think?

There is also currently a Kaptain Krunch Krew group on xfire. IDK what this entails. Maybe tracking stats? it would be cool to have our entire krews stats tracked, but i don't think thats happening ever.

How about this? You are required to register on xfire unless you PM wally with a logical reason as to why you should not have to register. The logical reason should not be, "i am not going to download the software." Honestly, I do not see why this is such a big issue, but I am willing to listen to how im completely wrong. For me kinda, if a friend just ASKED me out of nowhere to register on some site, and it took the same amount of effort as registering on xfire would, id take the 5 minutes to do it and not give a shit.

 

[BluBirD78]

I don't see the reason for requiring all the mods to sign up on xfire, especially if they plan on not using it. I do see what your saying in that if they sign up they "might" go ahead and download the software to use, but what if they are like me and never plan to use it, and still don't sign up, are we going to demote Mods for that?

My main deal is that right now the Mods do not have any kind of requirement like this at all, and if gets started then what next? There's no telling where it would end because we would have people saying "well the xfire is a requirement, I think so and so should be too". I'm not sure if you see it this way but requiring and forcing to me are the same thing, and I'm not going to be forced to do anything on here.

Not only that but what if they sign up, download the software and it doesn't help at all, because the people are off doing something else or just not paying attention? We then will get the exact same results and comments that we already have, that the Mods are not doing their job and something needs to be changed. Like I said what is next on the agenda if this doesn't work out, what else will the Mods be "required" to do to make things right?

I really don't think this is going to pass or "happen", w/e you want to call it, but if it did and does happen and Wally along with the Admins or whoever want to demote me for it that's fine, I'll give it up for my freedom. I do this for basically a side job along with what I already do at my current work, and I don't think requiring the people here that do this stuff for free and some like Damage or Take spend a LOT of time here. Would we really want to risk losing good people over something like this? Well this is long enough so let hear some more thoughts on it, I'm curious to see where this is going next...

 

[TheDude]

DUDE. THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF FREEDOM AND HUMAN RIGHTS. ITS 5 MINUTES ON A WEBSITE TO REGISTER! It is not a slippery slope, but I can totally understand why you could think that. I understand that you always have the right NOT to support this at all. Here's what I think....

The Krew should be able, to a certain degree, dictate it's own rules. If 80% of the Krew wanted this rule, I do not see how it would be AGAINST the interest of the krew.

Also, if everyone gets xfire, which is not a plan were discussing, just a possible side effect, and then no one is available, then well...... we use the shout and nothing is different. I fail to see how that would be a problem. Mods already do not respond to the shout, or avoid it so they do not have to respond.

Also, a HUGE portion of this thread was devoted to me just naming cool shit about xfire. I am not suggesting it be a requirement to download it or use it. I think its a really nifty program. If people use it a lot, it will help with a couple of our moderation problems. That's it. That's the extent of what i wanted from this thread.

Blu, you already mentioned that you HAVE an xfire account. If we decide to make staff register an account, YOU WONT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. I don't get where you get this, ""they are going to demote me because i wont breakdown when FREEDOM is involved." I mean sure, it's patriotic or whatever, but it's borderline ree-donk-u-lus in my opinion.

 

[NickHouston]

How about we just suggest this to the mods. If they say no then no, if they say yes or have an account then thats great. Blu is right, requiring mods to download software that either they dont want/never use or even making them make an account. Maybe some mods dont want to give away thier e-mail adress and get constant advertisements for something they dont even care about. It would be nice for the mods to do this, but forcing them is definately not an option

 

[TheDude]

LOL my roommate is making the WORST pop song right now.

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ok. This is the last time im going to say this. I have said is SO CLEARLY so many time that i do not understand how you can go throguh this thread without knowing what i mean.t

Nick you have xfire..... do you get constant advertisement emails from xfire? I haven't gotten a single email from xfirem aside from the registration validation email. not 1.!!

NO WHERE IN THIS THREAD DO I SUGGEST THAT MODS SHOULD BE FORCED TO DOWNLOAD ANY SOFTWARE AT THIS TIME. PLEASE RE READ MY POSTS TO GAIN CLARIFICATION ON WHAT I MEANT.

 

[The Moment]

I've already got one but I rarely use it.
Please tell me your final decision cause I don't wanna have to read all this...

 

[MasterCLiP]

Just click the xfire icon once then minimze it. You won't even know it's there until someone messeges you. Also we should go ahead and poll this thread if it's not already polled (im on Tapatalk) for a final decision.

 

[WaLLy]

Rowdy, rowdy, rowdy.

In my honest opinion, having the shoutbox is more than enough for my Staff members to have. Some of the staff members, may feel like "fuck, I'm OFF of the forum, why should they bother me...". I totally agree on this part. Other staff members may say, "hey, message me if you see I'm online.". That's their personal choice.

We have steam and/or xfire because it's our own choice to do so. Making staff members download a program (even if it sits minimized on the taskbar) may intrude in their personal time. I don't pay them a dime and the only thing I ask is if they're on the forum and if someone reports a hacker then to jump on the server and ban them. I'll take my chances and say I nor the Admins will probably ever mandate the staff members to download programs.

Like I said, some staff members don't mind to get bothered even if they're not on the forum; others may.

 

[517Houston]

then get more mods that will actually do the job

 

[Arcani]

wally dont forgot there are times where we do report them in shout but by the time a mod or admin comes online they can be long gone from the svr with some other people leaving cause of kkk not taking care of lets say a hacker

im not a mod but i still think i shouldve added my own reason why

but wally is right we shouldnt force them to download xfire

 

[NickHouston]

Nick you have xfire..... do you get constant advertisement emails from xfire? I haven't gotten a single email from xfirem aside from the registration validation email. not 1.!!

I actually get constant emails from xfire about their advertisers and stuff. Its annoying but i put a spam filter in my email

 

[517Houston]

I get no spam mail from xfire at all

 

[MasterCLiP]

I've never gotten any spam from xfire, must be a newsletter setting.

 

[TheDude]

LOL my roommate is making the WORST pop song right now.

---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:21 PM ----------

ok. This is the last time im going to say this. I have said is SO CLEARLY so many time that i do not understand how you can go throguh this thread without knowing what i mean.t

Nick you have xfire..... do you get constant advertisement emails from xfire? I haven't gotten a single email from xfirem aside from the registration validation email. not 1.!!

NO WHERE IN THIS THREAD DO I SUGGEST THAT MODS SHOULD BE FORCED TO DOWNLOAD ANY SOFTWARE AT THIS TIME. PLEASE RE READ MY POSTS TO GAIN CLARIFICATION ON WHAT I MEANT.

???? right. no downloads. now moving onto the real thread topic.

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I've already got one but I rarely use it.
Please tell me your final decision cause I don't wanna have to read all this...

ok. So. IF YOU ALREADY HAVE AN XFIRE ACCOUNT. then the outcome of my request will result in you having to do NOTHING regardless of the outcome.

---------- Post added February 4th, 2011 at 04:02 AM ---------- Previous post was February 3rd, 2011 at 08:49 PM ----------

OK HOW ABOUT THIS:

I have just made a new thread to rebuild a working and organized list of contact information for Members, forum members, and staff.
http://www.kkkgaming.com/showthread...and-Staff-NEW-AND-IMPROVED!&p=42945#post42945

I will actively organize and compile this information.
FORGET ABOUT FORCING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING
What we should do is actively pressure our mods to use xfire, as it could really be beneficial to our ability to give server users a better game. No rule about xfire or anything like that. If you would like to not be nagged about using xfire, steam, or something else, please tell the person nagging you. Basic social skills guys. I see no reason why we can't at least ASK our staff to use this software.

Please check out the post and provide the desired information. It would be VERY helpful if a link to this thread was added to the "NEW USER?" threads, so that new members will more likely provide the information when they get here, and not just never see the thread.

If the thread has not already been stickied, I would greatly appreciate someone doing that.

 

[BluBirD78]

ok. So. IF YOU ALREADY HAVE AN XFIRE ACCOUNT. then the outcome of my request will result in you having to do NOTHING regardless of the outcome.

Ok with that being said, what's the whole point of this post again is if all you have to do is sign up for xfire and never use it, that does nothing for the Krew that I can see and adding your name to another account that you will never use...

 

[TheDude]

the point is to make people go through the first step in the process of getting xfire, which for some people will cause them to get the program, use it, and like it. Businesses do this all the time. So do ad companies. But the threads trashed, im just making a list of our current info now, forget about a rule. It would be very helpful if those people with xfire accounts would just check out the thread i linked to.