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I'm not even getting involved with this discussion but suffice to say there is a lot of misinformation here.
I will say, ignore the mainstream media, consult only reputable news sources and form your own opinions based upon your own research, not the semi-retarded opinions from shittards like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or other embarrassments to the GOP.
I will say, ignore the mainstream media, consult only reputable news sources and form your own opinions based upon your own research, not the semi-retarded opinions from shittards like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or other embarrassments to the GOP.
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I will agree with pwn. All those people make money by convincing you to watch their show. The easiest way to do that is with any kind of scandal, and it seems like half the arguments here are about scandals (socialist plots, taxation that is going to undermine capitalism). I won't say these are totally wrong, but when every argument is based off scandals and media ruckus like this, it makes one wonder whether it ALL can be true.
holy crap dude, i didn't know you were that literate
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Actually Fox News is all I watch, the other media news on TV doesn't tell you what you want to know, unless it's about how many sea lions are in the sea or how long Linsday Lohan's sentence is going to be this time.
I also watch Glenn Beck just about every day too, and you guys are fools if you think he only does this for money. The thing I like about Beck, and apparently none of you have seen, is that every single thing that is talked about on his show is based on facts, and most of them are facts that are said in THEIR OWN WORDS! It doesn't take a scientist to figure out if they say it, that's what they believe.
TheDude, you talk about the scandals and what not that is trying to undermine Capitalism, you can't honestly believe that with all of these Socialists in power with the President that they want to keep Capitalism can you? Capitalism is the disease to them, and they will do anything to rid it from our society.
Anyways you guys know how I feel on the subject and I may or may not keep this up, who knows. And FYI Pwn, Beck is neither for the Republicans or Democrats, get your facts straight.
I also watch Glenn Beck just about every day too, and you guys are fools if you think he only does this for money. The thing I like about Beck, and apparently none of you have seen, is that every single thing that is talked about on his show is based on facts, and most of them are facts that are said in THEIR OWN WORDS! It doesn't take a scientist to figure out if they say it, that's what they believe.
TheDude, you talk about the scandals and what not that is trying to undermine Capitalism, you can't honestly believe that with all of these Socialists in power with the President that they want to keep Capitalism can you? Capitalism is the disease to them, and they will do anything to rid it from our society.
Anyways you guys know how I feel on the subject and I may or may not keep this up, who knows. And FYI Pwn, Beck is neither for the Republicans or Democrats, get your facts straight.
WOOOO!!! Finally someone who watches Fox news!!!
Like i said, basing things on facts is one thing that all credible news stations do. In capitalism blu, EVERYTHING is done for money, so yes, a large part of what these people do is to increase their financial success. This is NOT in the sense that they are looking to increase their personal income. When looking at these things (news stations, magazines, websites that are run for profit), you have to judge them as an entity as a whole. So when i say Glenn Beck might be saying things in certain ways that increase the income of whatever group he belongs to, I am not saying that it is his scheme. There are many factors involved.
The BUSINESS he works for is looking to promote its own financial success, and ALL the players are involved in some way. So maybe his manager tells him to stop using certain words and replace them with euphemisms in order to appeal to more politically correct crowds. This certainly is not done in order to undermine capitalism, freedom of speech, or solely to obtain profit. Maybe the editor who decides to cut a certain part out of a story he will be reading, because it is too controversial, or the facts are not proven concretely enough yet, for whatever reason. These things are done to ensure the stability and success of that business. Glenn Beck is not who is running the show in any large sense. So look at what the business itself wants and needs when judging the possible motives for whatever they do.
Let's just say for a second that there was only the public's interest in mind when any of these news stations made their decisions. Using Fox as an example, let's say they think they are the voice of reason, and that they NEED to report the facts to the public, because it is ethically correct to do so in such a free nation, where the power lies with the people. Fox has to support itself in order to do this. They need to be able to pay their expenses just like any other business, in order to keep reporting whatever news they need to report. Fox also has a very specific audience that they report to, like most news stations. If there was a story they realized would seriously anger their audience, should they report it, this causing them to lose income and credibility from that audience, they may not report it, due to the fact that they wish to remain able to report other things in the future.
This is the same thing i said about politicians earlier. If Obama wants to get a bill passed, he may have to sacrifice some things that he wants in order to get that specific thing done. In some cases this may be the integrity of the bill in terms of all the other nasty shit that gets added to it.
My point is that news stations, including Fox news, to a certain degree, structure their reports to appeal to an audience to keep their business functioning, just like any other business in our capitalist nation. They have their audience, and sometimes they report what they think that audience wants to hear. That is why it is very good to do research using MANY sources of news, not just one, or even a couple. Almost all of them are biased in some way, for the reasons i just states, and just as a result of basic human nature. I'm not saying they are all sneaky weasels, but that these things are almost unavoidable under the circumstances of a capitalist nation.
I would say the same thing to anyone who watched ONLY cnn. One source of news just doesn't cut it.
Aside from this, NOTHING compares to primary source research. When you want to know what obamas views are on socialism, watch shit that obama says directly, look into his past yourself, read what he has written, read the bills he proposes and who added what to it.. etc. Nothing is more revealing than a legitimate primary source.
The BUSINESS he works for is looking to promote its own financial success, and ALL the players are involved in some way. So maybe his manager tells him to stop using certain words and replace them with euphemisms in order to appeal to more politically correct crowds. This certainly is not done in order to undermine capitalism, freedom of speech, or solely to obtain profit. Maybe the editor who decides to cut a certain part out of a story he will be reading, because it is too controversial, or the facts are not proven concretely enough yet, for whatever reason. These things are done to ensure the stability and success of that business. Glenn Beck is not who is running the show in any large sense. So look at what the business itself wants and needs when judging the possible motives for whatever they do.
Let's just say for a second that there was only the public's interest in mind when any of these news stations made their decisions. Using Fox as an example, let's say they think they are the voice of reason, and that they NEED to report the facts to the public, because it is ethically correct to do so in such a free nation, where the power lies with the people. Fox has to support itself in order to do this. They need to be able to pay their expenses just like any other business, in order to keep reporting whatever news they need to report. Fox also has a very specific audience that they report to, like most news stations. If there was a story they realized would seriously anger their audience, should they report it, this causing them to lose income and credibility from that audience, they may not report it, due to the fact that they wish to remain able to report other things in the future.
This is the same thing i said about politicians earlier. If Obama wants to get a bill passed, he may have to sacrifice some things that he wants in order to get that specific thing done. In some cases this may be the integrity of the bill in terms of all the other nasty shit that gets added to it.
My point is that news stations, including Fox news, to a certain degree, structure their reports to appeal to an audience to keep their business functioning, just like any other business in our capitalist nation. They have their audience, and sometimes they report what they think that audience wants to hear. That is why it is very good to do research using MANY sources of news, not just one, or even a couple. Almost all of them are biased in some way, for the reasons i just states, and just as a result of basic human nature. I'm not saying they are all sneaky weasels, but that these things are almost unavoidable under the circumstances of a capitalist nation.
I would say the same thing to anyone who watched ONLY cnn. One source of news just doesn't cut it.
Aside from this, NOTHING compares to primary source research. When you want to know what obamas views are on socialism, watch shit that obama says directly, look into his past yourself, read what he has written, read the bills he proposes and who added what to it.. etc. Nothing is more revealing than a legitimate primary source.
Oh yeah Moment I love Fox News, they actually TELL you the things you either want or need to know that's going on in the world today. All the others like MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc... are all in bed with this whole agenda, and rarely if ever reports what Fox does
I want it to be noted that i did not make any allegations about specifically what ANY news stations say, or what obama has done or said. I discussed only the general way these things function. All i am saying is that to trust one news sources without contemplating the possible motives behind what they are saying is a dangerous thing.
Blu you are wasting your time. Liberals/Progressives/Democrats (notice how they have to keep changing their name? LOL) look at facts as obstacles. Once you point out a fact or a video of them lying or whatever it is they pull the race card or George Bush.
Example:
Supposed racist remarks directed at a senator at a tea party gathering.
No proof, witnesses ever came forward to corroborate story.
$100,000 offered for any witness, video etc. of this event.
None have come forward.
Yet the media (Olberman, Mathhews, Maddow) keep running the "racist story" with no facts/proof to back it up.
Who are:
Van Jones
Andy Stern
George Soros
Bill Ayers
I won't tell you, look it up (Hint: C*****ist). You will find interesting FACTS about these people and their affiliation with our president. You don't need people to tell you anything, you will find their words which are undisputable facts.
If the President has the house and the senate why did they need so much arm twisting and backroom deals to get healthcare passed?
Why was is so urgent to pass healthcare if it does not kick in for another 3 years?
The list goes on and on people. Open your eyes, be a leader, ask questions and seek the truth.
America is a great country. People die for it and die trying to get here. We are heading in the wrong direction and it's up to us to make a difference.
Example:
Supposed racist remarks directed at a senator at a tea party gathering.
No proof, witnesses ever came forward to corroborate story.
$100,000 offered for any witness, video etc. of this event.
None have come forward.
Yet the media (Olberman, Mathhews, Maddow) keep running the "racist story" with no facts/proof to back it up.
Who are:
Van Jones
Andy Stern
George Soros
Bill Ayers
I won't tell you, look it up (Hint: C*****ist). You will find interesting FACTS about these people and their affiliation with our president. You don't need people to tell you anything, you will find their words which are undisputable facts.
If the President has the house and the senate why did they need so much arm twisting and backroom deals to get healthcare passed?
Why was is so urgent to pass healthcare if it does not kick in for another 3 years?
The list goes on and on people. Open your eyes, be a leader, ask questions and seek the truth.
America is a great country. People die for it and die trying to get here. We are heading in the wrong direction and it's up to us to make a difference.
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