I have some bad news from the music world today...

TheDude

Dudesicle
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Dude, wtf? How did we get politics involved in Justin Beiber? Who gives a shit what Justin Beiber thinks america should be like? He's just a kiddie pop star.
 

BriAn79

Second Lieutenant
Former Krew Member
I was just voicing my opinion about him, that is still ok isn't it? He's pretty much against American principles and values so why shouldn't everyone here know about that? Especially since he's so popular here. I just like to know all I can about someone before putting them on a throne like so many people here have.

And dude you are right, he is just a pop star. But pop stars in our culture have a huge impact. Take Micheal Jackson for example.. People tend to listen to others just based on their popularity instead of what they are really like ya know.
 

Joe Momma

First Lieutenant
Former Krew Member
I was just voicing my opinion about him, that is still ok isn't it? He's pretty much against American principles and values so why shouldn't everyone here know about that? Especially since he's so popular here. I just like to know all I can about someone before putting them on a throne like so many people here have.

And dude you are right, he is just a pop star. But pop stars in our culture have a huge impact. Take Micheal Jackson for example.. People tend to listen to others just based on their popularity instead of what they are really like ya know.

Hes a 17 year old lucky good looking kid who's balls haven't dropped yet. I don't think it matters what he thinks
 

MassNightmare

Resident Assassin and Ex-Member
Meanin he has a small dick and thinks what would the girls think of him if they knew which I probably think they would laugh their ass off
 

Joe Momma

First Lieutenant
Former Krew Member
Meanin he has a small dick and thinks what would the girls think of him if they knew which I probably think they would laugh their ass off
I don't think he has a small dick lol, I mean come on, his girlfriend is selena gomez
 

TheDude

Dudesicle
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LOL he's 17? Oh that's just sad. Wow.....

Well, I'm extremely less annoyed by his antics. Now they just seem pathetic.
 

TheDude

Dudesicle
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I think by bullshit he means Korean. They mean the same thing here in america :lmao:

Jks.

Justin Beiber, you sad child.... what the fuck are you doing?
 

RikuX2

Second Lieutenant
Dude, auto-tune can be used well. As a sound-effect it's pretty awesome. But i don't like it when people who have no talent (cough cough rebecca black) use it so they can sing on tune.
 

TheDude

Dudesicle
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I think autotune sounds shitty, and a singer who can sing those notes without a filter sounds better.

I don't like to hear people talking notes out, singing is better imo. I also listen to more instrumental music, anyway. I also disagree that good musicians are just gifted. The best musicians work their asses off. Rebecca Black has at least the same potential as pretty much everyone else, but obviously she isn't interested on capitalizing on that. If she put the work in, she could be just as good as Dimeback, Kurt Rosenwinkel, or whoever your favorite musician is. She's a hobbyist masquerading as a trained professional.
 

RikuX2

Second Lieutenant
As i said...it's not necessarily used to make a singer sing in tune...it can be used as a distortion tool.
 

CiTyCHiLD

Second Lieutenant
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Justin is not my type of music artist. I don't know the guy or any of his songs because I don't pay much attention to him. I don't mind filters or pitch correction tools like auto tune used on vocals. I just don't like auto tuned vocals on the type of music I listen too. It would sound strange on some of the bands I like. Also, I don't think people are born with the talent to be an amazing singer. I think people are blessed with the ability to learn how to be great singers.
 

TheDude

Dudesicle
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I would separate being a great singer from having a great voice.

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And while I can break down everything in the music world based simply on my own personal preferences, some musicians are simply better at their trade than others. They are better players, writers, singers...etc. They have better ears. Basically, it comes down to who has better control over the music they make. The better you are, the more options you have as a player and a writer (rather than just sitting down with your guitar and playing either the few chords you know in different orders or random shapes until you get something that sounds good), the more in control of your music you are. For the record, anyone can sit at a piano and mess around til they get something that sounds good. Plugging the shit into a computer makes it 8 million times easier to end up making a song. Why do you think there are so many one hit wonders in the pop and electronic world? Because the people who make them basically don't know how to do it again. Basically, because they aren't good musicians, but they made a nice song. That is the reality.

It is a much more powerful statement when a master musician can say "yes, I could play whatever I want to, but I CHOOSE to play this." Justin Beiber can in absolutely no way play whatever he wants to. This is because he is a WORSE musician. If you like his music, then fine. It doesn't make him a better musician. And, in reality, how can you say that your music is truly yours until you can say you have considered all the options. Until then, it is only partly yours. The rest is a product of your limitations and outside influences.

It is also absolutely ignorant of people to think that musicians have music in their ear from the time they are born and they just spend their life trying to figure out how to play it. No. You TRAIN your ear. It changes. You start to be able to tell the difference between closer notes and notice melodies. Little melodic phrases are like words. Little rhythmic cliches are the same way. It gets to the point where you just hear a melody and you hear the whole, not the parts. Take "nanny nanny boo boo" for instance. I could play that little cliche all over the place in a chord, but you would still hear the nanny's and the boo boo's. So the music one makes will inevitably change as they become a better musician.

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