KKK Server configuration suggestion

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Titoezz

Titoezz

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This is going a bit too far imo, thanks that your trying to help, but your doing it in game way too much as well.. Your acting like a moderator setting your own rules and near spamming the chat ingame with your talking. People are complaining about you. Just saying.

Thanks for the headsup on the FPS/less laggy etc though, i hope it'll work.
 
IeditZ

IeditZ

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Ok so everyone lets put this into 5year old terms for you :)

When your doing trick shots you set your FPS to 120 This is because you see 120 frames a sec and your enemy see's only 60 frames this allows for you the 120FPS player to see and react faster than the 60FPS player. This looks like hacks basically but it's just taking advantage of a graphics card and processor that can handle the stress and still deliver a smooth playback. Now capping the FPS on a server makes it so the 120FPS player is forced to play at 60FPS like all the regular players. Now me i really don't want a FPS cap i love having 120FPS i PAID to be able to do anything i wanted on my computer a FPS cap limit isn't the answer a fucking Ping limit is but that would restrict to many people.
 
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TheDude

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You shouldn't be able to pay to modify your settings to disadvantage the other player. If that is not what you are suggesting, and all you are saying is basically "better graphics cards give you better framerate so things are smoother and you can see better," that's fine. This doesn't seem to be what Floggin was suggesting at all though, and I thought that was pretty fkin obvious.
 
Xepher

Xepher

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Well he is complaining about "skippy" people, so I'm guessing people who unlock their frames do it so they have a forced lagged advantage? I still don't understand how someone who lags framerate wise would have the upper hand. Sure they could get lucky kills by computer skipping but they still lag as well right? Do they control when they skip? Because If they don't then how would they do any better then the people who aren't lagging?

Sorry If I sound confused but I am. It maybe due to the fact that I've never seen anyone who constantly lagged and constantly did well. The only thing that I see that gives people an advantage is your physical distance to server and your connection.
 
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Voodoo

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*snore* Do wha? Too technical bro, 'Keep it simple, stupid.' Nah, I haven't noticed any problems about people skipping when I play. But W/e i don't think lagging would help.
 
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TheDude

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I think he was talking about more technical things than just playing ability based on whether you're lagging or not. Things that have to do with client/server interaction or something.
 
IeditZ

IeditZ

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@TheDude

Well they should buy a better computer then, lol

And there is no lag hack, no such thing is invented, first off it would require you too cut your connection and reload it, second of all FPS has nothing to do with lag other than smoother gameplay and the ability to see shit before someone with lower FPS see's it. SO i have no idea wtf this thread is about if he's talking about a lag hack/glitch.
 
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TheDude

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I think that Floggin gave a pretty detailed explanation that contradicts your statement Editz. I also think he explicitly said it wasn't a hack. I also think he was referring to unstable uncapped frame rates, not necessarily low ones.
 
IeditZ

IeditZ

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"Now so you know the importance of this, and why many admins will Cap Frame Rates, the Cheats you can get that are technically not hacks in anyway, but can behave like hacks, use frame rate manipulation to throw off server communications."

Re-read the post dude.

And he was referring to people who change their frame rate from the default 60FPS
 
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CiTyCHiLD

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@IeditZ: Okay, I see what you are saying. I think you are right too. It doesn't seem fair to the people who have paid good money for a better graphics card or what ever.
 
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TheDude

Dudesicle
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Floggin said:
So anyway I am just suggesting, and there is no need to make huge conversation about this, Server should cap something in the range of 70-90, people doing more then this will not see a difference except tehre kills are more consistant to shots hit and miss, comments on lag will be minimal. permisssible clients require Frame Sync to work right.

I still don't get if he is saying it will end up acting like a client side frame rate cap. However, this obv. has a lot less to do with just making everyone have the same framerate so they get the same quality of play than Ieditz suggested. I think he rashly made that assumption b/c he didn't read floggin's whole post.

We aren't going to be requiring guests or members to cap their framerates. You knew that already. So, pay for your nice gpu and get good smooth frames. We don't care. I don't think you are in danger, and I don't think this thread has anything to do with you really.
 
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Floggin

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you got the right IDea, but you see it isn't gonna effect what you see, it simply makes you the client send in packet to the server at 60 FPS, not that you are limited to 60 FPS. About the thats why I buy fancy video Card stuff? Hmm thats not why you buy expensive video cards. Frames only allow bragging. the reason your buying Fancy cards like me mostly is to get the best performance out of your PC gaming. As in Playing the Game in High resolutions, with all candies on. that is why we buy expensive Cards, but high frame rates are nice!


I don't mean to spam the server, but people argue to much and then can't drop it, sorry!

But server side Frame Caps like TheDude mentioned will make the Server run at 60, and for the client packets at that rate to, it doesn't usually force the client to have Output of 60 FPS.

Hmm On Xepher Skills, imma just say 90% of the time I see him he is dead on the ground, and I hate having my kill shots on him be 8 frames behind him, which is why I don't play when he is anymore, and no I am not acting like a moderator, I have my own servers to moderate. I wouldn't take an offer to moderate another server is I was paid. Its hard work configuring a Server on the West Coast US Shore, and make it good enough that UK Plays fight and threaten others to leave to play on my servers.


Glade to see this topic is important enough to get this much traffic, and really would be COOL news to see it at least tested for one day. just to see what happens. None of the games I have hosted ever force the client to have local output of the server cap, but who knows Every dedicated server is a little Different and CoD might. it is hard to say. I personally don't know what would happen. I do know that the Client is really sensitive to Frame rates because Permissible server compare Frame for frame between clients and server to calculate the answer. Someone with low Frame Rates against someone with much higher rates and stable ping will typically get robbed to compensate for lag times due to ping latency

I hope this explains it better for you. I can't think of an easier way to say it. But I am done here I just wanted to post a suggestion. Moderators need more specific explaination to what could happen just hit me up
 
Xepher

Xepher

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Former Krew Member
Floggin said:
I don't mean to spam the server, but people argue to much and then can't drop it, sorry!
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I think this is the main gripe I have with you. You don't know how to just STFU and play. You take things way too personally and can't give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

You are (apparently) 36 years old. Grow the effin H up and learn to deal with people who are better then you. Its a videogame so just freaking chill. Going as far as you are trying to change the server rules for one guy, based on your stupid assumption (and which no one else has complained), is really selfish of you.
 
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Floggin

Private First Class
o my god look who can't drop it. Dude I kill you 80% of the time I see you go away Dam. I stopped playin in the server to avoid you. Figure it out I kill you not you me. and I feel bad for killing you on shots that don't hit you now get over the lack of whatever you flaming about!!

the Topics been noted and Despite what Xeypher thinks of whatever it is. can a moderator lock this so there isn't anymore whining from him. I stopped playing in the server to avoid him and make him feel better now he can't stop here. Geez Xepher get over it, so what you die without being hit. I am just here spilling suggestions dang!!
 
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