How do we save ourselves?

[TheDude]

How does the world save itself from Russia?

How does the rest of the world save itself from the powers that be?

In the USA we have checks and balances. We are already ready to kick Obama out. There has been serious media attention given to the way Obama has used his executive orders. The judicial branch has been under scrutiny. Something is going to give.

He (his party) CAN'T have another term. I am ready for a Republican administration. This will happen. Aside from this, we have protests on a regular basis. You can't silence the USA's general public.

On the other hand, how does the world save itself from North Korea???? How does the world save itself from Russia?

These are serious questions. There is corruption everywhere, but how does the world get together and prevent corruption from being a central function of humanity????

 

[Rival]

We go to war as Halberd Wielding Moose Riders. It's really as simple as that.

 

[Gage]

Obama has to be careful in what he does next. Putin currently has the upper hand because the U.S. still needs Putin. I can't stress that enough. That's why Obama is having such a hard time figuring out what to do.
We need Putin in terms of the Syrian weapons deal and we need him for the Iranian nuclear program.

But If Obama decides to punish Putin with sanctions, it could be a complete mess down the future. He has to think about what it will take to reverse it down the long road and whether or not he will have supporters.
But personally, I don't see Putin backing down from Crimea. Whatever Obama does next, we gotta hope for the best or else it's honestly going to turn into a war.

- And also as for North Korea, before Kim Jong Un decides to even launch a nuke, there will definitely be a coup within the country to overthrow the dictator. The generals alongside Kim Jong Un are standing by him but it's obvious they want to overthrow him which is only a matter of time but they're too fearful for their lives. He screwed up everything his father had worked for while he was still alive such as building closer ties with China. I don't think we have to worry much about Kim Jong Un for the time being. Because once he decides to launch a missile, the country will retaliate back on him along with China, who is still technically their ally.

 

[TheDude]

O agree with everything except this.....

North Korea is a mess.... The public loves the dictator. It is a horrible place for humanity. They could nuke the whole world and still love their dictator.

Waiting to hear what other people think.


P.S I would like to hear more about what you think about the internal drama between the other generals and Kim Jong Un, gage. I had not thought of it that way before. Please continue.

 

[Gage]

The public is only feigning their love for their dictator. When Kim Jong Il died, the former dictator, South Korea's intel found out that the men, women, and children that were crying at his funeral were hired to do that in front of camera. Also SK intel picked up that Kim Jong Un wrath didn't stop once he killed his uncle. He also killed quite a number of his generals that were attempting to start a coup against him. This was only a few months ago. Kim Jong Un killed a number of them but he still suspects that there still are a few more. This will only lead to other generals respecting him not out of true loyalty but fear. He also wiped out a group of people that were rallying against him. That's why I could see an actual coup starting in the future and Kim Jong Un getting overthrown.

Also when his father was still dictator, the country wasn't that poor as it is now. NK is currently attempting to make ammends with SK because their country is far worse than it ever was before. More than a third of the population is starving. The country doesn't love him. It's out of fear for their own lives which is just straight up depressing.

 

[TheDude]

Man..... Gage......... you know more than me... the world is so fucked

 

[Gage]

It is. Kim Jong Un is pretty much the next Hitler.

 

[TheDude]

Yea but everyone hates North Korea.... right?
I mean, you'd have to be a total idiot....[DOUBLEPOST=1393834213][/DOUBLEPOST]@Gage referencing your earlier post. The fall of Rome was precipitated by a lack a requirements given to the leadership in terms of actual credentials. The public was made stupid and the leadership was made by bloodline. Sounds like North Korea.

 

[Nikon]

Woe to America if Hillary gets elected in 2016...

 

[Storky]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_defectors
I'm pretty sure North Koreans hate their dictator. After all, he is a dictator.
What "good" country condemns it's defectors to death in political prisons and reeducation facilities?
A good leader should try and figure out WHY his/her civilians are trying to escape then help them, not kill them.

 

[Nikon]

Its no surprise that the North Koreans hate their "Glorious Leader", but how can a completely unarmed populace face a blood thirsty dictatorship? The only chance they would have would be for the military to defect as well.

Has anyone looked at NKs military arsenal? The majority of their military equipment dates back to Vietnam and even the Korean War. Most of their aircraft are MiG-17s and MiG-19s and they also have a number of MiG-21s and MiG-23s. The bulk of their armor consists of T-55s from the 1940s, T-59s from the late 50s, and T-62s from the 1960s. If you want to know how modern armor like Abrams stack up against those, just look up the Battle of 73 Easting. They have some "newer" armor from the 1990s, but one can doubt that they would have the capabilities of modern tanks. They have quantity but not quality. However, they have nothing to lose and those that have nothing to lose will often fight the hardest.

If they decided to pick a fight with SK, they would also have to face off against Japan and the US. The only problem would be China, Russia, or maybe even Iran trying to intervene. Sure, NK may have Nuclear capabilities, but so do we, and a nuclear warhead can be stopped.

 

[theGenius]

how does the world save itself from russia? really???? someone is in a cold war mood. my biggest concern about russia is that if eu politicians keep fucking up and russia closes the gaspipes, but as i already stated in the other thread, since germanys ex president Schröder works for gazprom and is good friends with putin that probably wont happen so soon.
and you really shouldnt vote some republican who convinces the public that russia is all about global domination or some shit like that. also, whatever new party comes into office in the U.S they will never give up the power they already have, voting a differnet party wont change the faults with that. after all democracy is chosing between a) and b), c) doesnt have to be presented.

and north korea needs to overthrow their leader, but im not really concerned about them, china is keeping them on a strong leash. also just like gage said, many in the leadership of nk dont like kim jung un and didnt like kim jung il neither. one has to remember that nk was a strict communist society under kim jung sung. when they abandoned communism when kim jung il took office many already were very against him, because a dynasty is unacceptable in a communist society. so they dropped communism and introduced a so called juche system, they even took down pictures of lenin and mao and replaced it with their own. then starvation came and all kinds of shit went downhill, now another family member takes office and screws up even more, i really cant imagin how he will stay in power much longer.

here is a better question for you: how do we save ourselfs from big coorperations and banks...the "federal" bank wich is private ?

 

[MikeK]

Stop saving the world, the world knows better.
You've already saved Korea, Kuba, Cambodia, Iran, Lebanon, Bosnia, Serbia, Afganistan, Iraq, Egept, Syria and many more other countries.
Better save yourself from your debt.

 

[chet manley]

Let the new Cold War come. Remember how good the US economy was when we had a Boogie Man to fight. Aaaaaah the good old days! Nostrovia you Ruskies. Not you MikeK....<3,

 

[theGenius]

Stop saving the world, the world knows better.
You've already saved Korea, Kuba, Cambodia, Iran, Lebanon, Bosnia, Serbia, Afganistan, Iraq, Egept, Syria and many more other countries.
Better save yourself from your debt.

i didnt know if i should rate your post funny or like it, but i decided that its way to sad to be funny.

btw. u forgot lybia, its the perfect example: it was all over the news, gaddafi bad this gaddafi bad that... and from the day he died not a single word in the media about it. how does the contry look now? truth is its in utter fucking chaos, a ffa for alquaida and extremists, its so fucked up that even northern mali is a safe heaven for alquaida now. and ethnic cleansing of non sunnis has been going on wide spread across the region. the democracy promised is far out of reach. and all the privileges they enjoyed under gaddafi like no taxes, free electricity, homes etc. are all gone.
but foreign mercenaries are patroling lybias oilplatforms now and the bank is now private,

WELL DONE. like mike said. stop saving it for a while and we will prolly be better off

 

[WaLLy]

Stop saving the world, the world knows better.
You've already saved Korea, Kuba, Cambodia, Iran, Lebanon, Bosnia, Serbia, Afganistan, Iraq, Egept, Syria and many more other countries.
Better save yourself from your debt.

lol even a Russian agrees . Kinda what I was referring to last night. Pretty sure @SteelHorse would agree about that.

 

[MelRose]

I don't know where or how the U.S. even begins to crawl out of the hole it's dug itself. Actually, I do but that would lead to an angry, long post that no one would care about.

We need to save ourselves from our biggest enemy- ourselves. We need to stop policing other countries and attempting to force our wishes on them. U.S.A: we're all about freedom as long as you do what we say. It's no wonder America is viewed as arrogant, we are.

We need to stay out of the Ukraine/Russia situation. It is not our business.

 

[jasmine]

that would be nice would be to give them cod4 multiplayer that makes their "war" on pc and the winner by setting against it will forget the rules of the game because in times of war does not exist
more seriously I think the more we advance in time and because of energy problems that we know the planet will have more conflict
More people+ more needs = more war[DOUBLEPOST=1393880835][/DOUBLEPOST]

I don't know where or how the U.S. even begins to crawl out of the hole it's dug itself. Actually, I do but that would lead to an angry, long post that no one would care about.

We need to save ourselves from our biggest enemy- ourselves. We need to stop policing other countries and attempting to force our wishes on them. U.S.A: we're all about freedom as long as you do what we say. It's no wonder America is viewed as arrogant, we are.

We need to stay out of the Ukraine/Russia situation. It is not our business.

MONROE ATTITUD!!!

 

[MikeK]

that would be nice would be to give them cod4 multiplayer that makes their "war" on pc and the winner by setting against it will forget the rules of the game because in times of war does not exist
more seriously I think the more we advance in time and because of energy problems that we know the planet will have more conflict
More people+ more needs = more war[DOUBLEPOST=1393880835][/DOUBLEPOST]
MONROE ATTITUD!!!

the main reason of that conflict has nothing to do with resources.
and when it comes to resources, IMO, it's likely to be China + India + Arabian countries + African territory, which is sold out to China against most northen countries like US/Canada/Australlia, EU and Russia.

 

[TheDude]

Mostly talking about how the USA needs to stop spending on defense right now in an effort to balance our books. This effort is definitely under way. Bush's main goal was to initiate and keep us in a constant state of military action. This keeps our military top notch, and we spend top notch on it. We continue to spend egregious amounts on military, and we have a hugggeee workforce that is military. Give a kid a toy, and he's gonna play with it.......

How do we deal with the crazy executive powers that starting getting abused during the Bush presidency, and continue to be abused today.

And when I said how does the world save itself, I meant the world, not the USA going out and "saving the world."