Server Rules 2.0

[PwnSauce]

I would propose we update server rules since the original set was created 2+ years ago and probably hasn't had much revision since.

1. Software hacks like Aimbot, Wallhack, koncept, namechanger (Not including a key bind) ,autofire, (For semi-auto weapons): Perma ban on sight.
2. Spawn Camp: 1st offense kick, 2nd temp ban, 3rd Perma ban.
3. Recruiting: 1st offense kick, 2nd temp ban, 3rd Perma ban.
4. Any harassment or Racism: 1st temp ban, 2nd Perma ban. Harassment can be verbal or actions like a team mate disrupting the game by harassing his teammate.
5. Advertising Clan sites or other sites: 1st offense kick, 2nd temp ban, 3rd Perma ban.
6. Your Input: Post a rule you think needs determination.
7. Advertising hack sites: Perma ban on sight (Per Sargass' input below)

Rules to reconsider:
1. Binding fire to mouse scroll is just a setting the game permits and doesn't actually give a lot of benefit to the person, plus in a 7 round desert eagle it expends all the ammo in one second or less. That's no benefit.
2. Bouncing: Bouncing doesn't give a person an advantage. It's just a way to goof around on a map and shouldn't be kick/ban offense.
3. Glitching (Getting into places the map doesn't easily permit) should be a kick if it gives the person an unfair advantage but if it's a kid goofing around on a map, kick or ban is wayyy overboard.

We're supposed to have a fun, friendly environment; not ban people at the slightest provocation.

These are only my opinions so put your comments and maybe we can re-post the server rules.

 

[JohnSmith]

These rules and consequences seem pretty good to me. Maybe advertising hack sites should be a temp ban from the beginning.

 

[MikeK]

So scroll is now allowed? :jawdrop:

 

[PwnSauce]

So scroll is now allowed? :jawdrop:

These are recommendations we haven't finalized.

How do you say "Derp" in Russian?

 

[Sargass]

This thread should be in team section before going into open part...just my two cent.

Advertising hack site...Ban on sight.

For rules to consider: (there's nothing to re-consider with old rules...they are clear imo)
Binding->Ban
Bouncing-> doesn't give advantage? except if the guy know every bounce spot and know how to deal with bounce...why not making a Zero grav server then if every people is allowed to do it...
Glitching-> according to Wiki "Glitching is an activity in which a person finds and exploits flaws or glitches in video games to achieve something that was not intended by the game designers.(...)...big or small...still cheating imo->ban

 

[Take]

I agree with Sarg, Recruiting and advertising should be instant ban.
Glitching should be Temp, then ban. the same with bounce.

 

[Sodalover]

Recruitment should be a ban on site.

 

[SteelHorse]

I don't see bouncing as giving an advantage to anyone even if you know them all. To kill someone while bouncing is rlly hard and doesn't happen very often. So i don't see this as an advantage, however it is a glitch. So do we allow that glitch and no others? I don't think that is a good idea because of the fact that it might bring up arguments in the future about unclear rules on whether glitching is allowed or not. So i would say not to ban on site but warn, kick, so on so forth.

I agree with the rest of the rules though. The recruitment thing isn't that big of a deal to me. If someone wants to play somewhere else they are going to go to the server list and look for another server. Someone coming in real fast and spamming their website or server ip isn't going to make a bunch of players quickly go to that server. To me it's pointless and doesn't work anyhow. So i would just leave all the other rules alone.

 

[Titoezz]

I agree with everything Pwn said in his post, would Thank twice if i could. I say leave it like he says.

Still has some grey areas but that's something cod4 will always have.
Imo the mods here are experienced enough (with some exceptions) to choose for themselves whether its too much to kick/temp/ban for something in the grey area or not.

1 last thing for the mods;

Cod4 is dying, going on a banspree for something you personally dont like aint good, the amount of active cod4 players has drained dramatically so think twice before you ban someone. Every player on the servers needs respect, as long as they're not asking to get banned. We dont want to be digging our own grave.

 

[Cryogenic Flare]

I don't think glitching should be a tb or a pb, unless glitches screw up the whole game I don't see anything wrong with them? especially not on rotu server. personally I love 'em, just cuz I find it make the game a little more interesting. With some of the glitches on rotu once you die in that glitch, most people don't know how to get to where you are. Isn't that punishment enough, having to reconnect and have you score reset?

 

[DamageINC]

Depends on the map imo. For example, on Pipeline, the machine gun glitch should be one warning then at least temp ban.

 

[Cryogenic Flare]

Okay fair enough, I agree

 

[PwnSauce]

This thread should be in team section before going into open part...just my two cent.

Advertising hack site...Ban on sight.

For rules to consider: (there's nothing to re-consider with old rules...they are clear imo)
Binding->Ban
Bouncing-> doesn't give advantage? except if the guy know every bounce spot and know how to deal with bounce...why not making a Zero grav server then if every people is allowed to do it...
Glitching-> according to Wiki "Glitching is an activity in which a person finds and exploits flaws or glitches in video games to achieve something that was not intended by the game designers.(...)...big or small...still cheating imo->ban

- I added the hack advertising as a ban.

- What binding = ban? Like a name change bind that looks like a software hack? I think that's just someone goofing around. We all use UnderCover (UC) names and it's easier to bind than manually enter it.

Glitching to goof around, no need to ban. Warn maybe.
Glitching to get an advantage others don't have? I say temp ban, then ban if it persists.

Sound legit?

 

[Kreubs]

I don't like bouncers either, but it's easy to tell a goof bounce vs a skilled one. They are a couple bounces on Broadcast that let you do fly-by camper blasts and are clearly an advantage.

I would warn, then kick if they keep doing advantageous bounces; otherwise, I don't really care.

 

[MikeK]

@ MG glitch on pipeline, haven't heard of it
http://youtu.be/PgW7rNaV4_M << see here if u haven't heard of it either

 

[MelRose]

Hi,

I hope it is OK that I am posting here, if not feel free to remove as I am not trying to step on any toes or upset anyone.

In regard to: Spawn Camp: 1st offense kick, 2nd temp ban, 3rd Perma ban

There are a number of regulars in a1 that are known to spawn camp now and again. A lot of times a warning or a spank will do the trick to get them to stop. I don't think sc should be a pb unless it is a severe case with at least 4-5 temp bans in place. Changing it to a 3rd offense pb could hurt server population and have a direct impact on our 'regulars' that unless I am incorrect, we want to continue to come to our servers. Many of them come back after a spank, or a 1 day temp ban because they love the server. It is a lax place to play with few rules in place and that is a huge draw. I think it should be kept like that as much as possible. As Tito stated, COD4 is dying, and as everyone knows we are struggling to populate the servers. PB's should be handed out with extra care and the realization that that person will find another server to play on. We want to do everything we can to keep them in ours.

The one thing I have seen among regulars and even krew members is confusion on what the rules are. Many seem to have their own idea of what is allowed, what isn't allowed, when rules should be universal regardless of whether or not the individual allows them. For example.. racism: one may not find racism personally offensive but as it is a server rule, it should be followed. I think if all the mods, members, and admins could present a more solid front on what the core rules of the servers are it would go a long way in helping people not be confused and do things that are questionable then say 'oh well, I didn't realize that wasn't allowed'. Glitching/bouncing seems to be a big one on this.

Thank you for reading.

 

[DamageINC]

Well i agree with the spawn camping thing. PB on a 3rd offense is ridiculous, imo.

I don't really consider bouncing a big deal. Glitching is hard (at least for me) to be universal on because some glitches (bouncing) i don't see as anything, and others (MG glitch pipeline) are a definite advantage.

Personally i don't think we need a revision, the main rules are fairly straight forward and easy to follow/enforce.

Some are open to interpretation depending on the mod. Personally i think that's fine. If one mod kicks or w/e for using a racist word and another warns beforehand, meh , no biggie in my view. As long as hackers/recruiters are dealt with i think we're ok.

 

[Jack]

When it comes to bouncing etc, theres been times when its been just me and some random on a server and they're like "do you want to do bounces?" my response is always "seeing as its just us 2 i will, but when there are other members on or the server is has more people dont bounce." Cause when its just 2 people trying to bounce is more entertaining than spending ages hunting around the map for the other person.

 

[Sargass]

- What binding = ban? Like a name change bind that looks like a software hack? I think that's just someone goofing around. We all use UnderCover (UC) names and it's easier to bind than manually enter it.

Glitching to goof around, no need to ban. Warn maybe.
Glitching to get an advantage others don't have? I say temp ban, then ban if it persists.

Sound legit?

Glitch to take advantage-> You do it on purpose...so you know what will happend if you get caught...

Binding-> i was talking about cheaty binding and scrollfiring, who cares if you bind your names...the only one who will have issues doing that would be silo...Changing name dont change gameplay...
i barely use my UC name...if i need to warn/kick/ban somebody i do it in open and i dont use bind to change it...the only things i got binded are server rules and "rooftops are..." i even have two profile, 1UC and 1usual.

And for the difference between goof glitching and serious glitching this is where the moderator brain takes part...YOU in place of moderator, and implcitly "game animator", have the choice to follow the rules point by point or to be smooth about it...I shouldn't have to explain that.