24-7Broadcast.com Banning KKK members and anyone seen affiliated with our clan.

[TheDude]

Hello,

A frustrating issue has come up. The server 24/7Broadcast FFA/TDM (website www.24-7Broadcast.com), run by Doomzday and another person took most of our regular members from before we switched IP's. It makes sense that the players went there, as our servers were unpopulated and hard to find for a while. This is fine. They did nothing wrong in accepting this displaced cod4 players . I'm just saying that if you are wondering where all our old players went, now you know.

However, the admins at this server and the affiliated website are banning players from their servers and site who are thought to be members of our clan or affiliated. (For instance, Tito was banned, though he is not a member, and was then banned from the forum.)

I would like to arrange some way to talk to the admins from the other server on our teamspeak about this issue, but I need to stress that before this happens, all of our members should be exercising respect at all times when dealing with the other clan. I will agree that their actions seem highly unjustified, immature, and combative, yet I hope everyone recognizes that assailing them with personal complaints and attacks will do us absolutely no good.

Please make sure that if you do go on their server, you do NOT wear our tags. I would also recommend that you be careful about where you spam walls and such, as they seem to be a little less experienced in cod4 and moderation, and will probably ban you. Make sure to follow ALL server rules. If you are found breaking any of our server rules on their server (such as hacking, glitching...etc.) be ready for administrative action on our side, as well. Also, at this time, if you wish to play on their servers, it would be best to not let them know you have any interaction with us or our site (this includes non-members, who they also seem to ban without warning for admitting any connection with us).

I have no idea why they are doing this. I can only assume it is because of our tags. I hope that doomzday is not involved in this decision, as that would lessen my respect for him greatly, and would be a serious low-blow to the krew (we have put serious time into making his stay with us more pleasurable).


So, while the admins work this out, I urge you all to be careful and courteous.

Thank you.

 

[Jack]

Doomz came here last night and apologised for what has been happening, he said that when someone bans one of us, for what ever reason he has to really push to get them back in, I thought that he did the right thing by coming here and I choose to believe he's telling the truth when he says he tries to get you guys back in, so hopefully any hate you guys have from getting band isn't directed at him.

 

[TheDude]

Yea, i want to talk to him.

 

[Ethan]

I just say let's not play on their server.

Focus on getting some regulars on our servers and we will not have to worry about this.


Good for doomz for getting a server started. WE CAN DO BETTER

 

[TheDude]

I think our members should be able to play on their server if they want to. That's the point. I personally don't care, too much. But it's not fair to be banning people who are members of this krew who obey their rules, and it's even worse that they might be banning people who just hang out on our forum. Those people shouldn't have to worry about getting banned, and should have the servers available to play on, just like we make our servers available for everyone to play on.

 

[517Houston]

I think our members should start concentrating on playing on our own damn servers.. Fuck those other servers

 

[Gal]

We are the players at 24-7broadcast.com
Your right a frustrating issue has come up, that we did not instigate on our servers.
We have experienced, trolling, disrespect to the players, the admins, advertising, and recruiting from your members (with and without tags).

Let’s start off with |kkk|thedude, since he seems so shocked this is going on, and the very person who started this topic saying anyone caught will be punished.
A quick clip of the logs...

9cccf340f47bbf26c9f5d868dfa0bd42 |kkk|TheDude aka (ButchCassidy, TheDude, Herro)

ButchCassidy said: seicer
ButchCassidy said: you used to play on KK servers
ButchCassidy said: so did you saunders
ButchCassidy said: and doomzday
ButchCassidy said: and SkyKing
SkyKing said: yes
seicer said: yeah I'm old
ButchCassidy said: yea you know they are back up, right

Ghandhi<3<3 said: whats going on?
Ghandhi<3<3 said: sicer
VED-RoadRash said: sup king
SkyKing said: there is talk of a coup
seicer said: hey
seicer said: he left
VED-RoadRash said: k
Ghandhi<3<3 said: king what was the kkk kid saying
Ghandhi<3<3 said: i saw the end of tht convo
SkyKing said: he was trying to get folks back to the kkk server
Ghandhi<3<3 said: ty
Ghandhi<3<3 said: ok
(x-h)Eagle said: ban him!

Stop treating the players like idiots, stop trying to treat us like idiots. As you can see, they know what’s going on. Many of them have been witness to this behavior from you guy’s time, and time again. Is this good for your image; is this how you gain respect of the players? I think the opposite. You treat the players like they are your property with this behavior. These players are no one's property, and have the freedom of choice.

Doomzday, and Gal took the time to welcome you guys tags and all to the server. They even had the heart to tell players that your server went through an ip relocation, up until you guys abused it. This is something most servers would not even do. Is this how you say thank you?

So don't come off as trying to be the victims here. Remember you guys choose to come to our server and behave like a bunch of kids from school. We did not come to you.
You choose to conduct yourself in this matter one after another. (The same reasons that you ban for on your server) Like you say in your ban forums, we don't want to hear your dog, brother, or mother, did it. We have heard it all before.

Wally (batman) is either doing a terrible job at controlling his clan, or he went along with this. It is the only 2 options.

At this point, and time, if there is any maturity in this Clan, then Wally will know what has to be done. If he is big enough to do it, is his choice. It is time that your clan takes responsibility for its actions, and does the right thing. If your players spent the time and energy on your own servers instead of bothering us on ours, your server may be doing a little better.

If this continues, complete Logs will be posted for players, and other clans to see how the KKK clan conducts itself. They will be open to the public, and the Google bots free to cache away.

Now a little about ourselves:
We are not a clan, thus no clan tags. We are a bunch of players that opened a server for people and friends to play on (payback to the community). Nothing more and this is what you’re choosing to attack!

24-7broadcast.com

 

[Ethan]

In the little archieve the you posted, I did not detect a valid attack. Sure if he would of gone on and on about "come back!" or "this server sucks", but really, I know that was not the intention of TheDude. He was surprised, as we're most of use seeing our old regulars on your server.

Regulars come and go. And in this case, I applause you guys at having a stable server.

Sorry if you all think we are attacking you.


And I find it really disappointing that you come on here bashing this Krew. Show a little respect, even if you believe you have been mistreated.

 

[TheDude]

I find it hard to believe that you actually think what I said there constitutes recruiting for our server. I talked to Seicer, a player who was on our server almost all day every day until we moved. Noticing him on your server, I said "hey" to him and told him our servers were back up. The whole affair was just simply my surprise at finding all of our old players.

I have no idea who else has done what on your servers because I have only been on your servers twice for a total of under 5 minutes.

I also fail to see how our clan isn't payback to the community.

I would also like to see all the logs of our players doing wrong, because LIKE I SAID IN MY POST, we don't allow our members breaking rules on other servers. However, you're right. WaLLy doesn't do a great job of controlling our members because that's not his right. We simply don't allow certain behavior, and if our members are found taking part in these certain behaviors, administrative action is taken. In this, WaLLy does and has done an excellent job.

Please come to teamspeak so we can talk this out like adults.

I certainly did nothing wrong on your server in my mind, but even if i did, no one said anything about it to me until now.... and YOU talk about administrative failures on OUR part? To me your actions seem little more than the result of megalomania and defensiveness, not community service and morality. Do you really feel so threatened by the benign actions of our little krew that you need to come on our site and threaten us?

Also keep in mind, Gal, that many of our members ARE little kids from school. While we do not condone immature behavior, and we administer consequences for it when necessary, I would ask you to be real about the simple facts of life...... this is an online videogame, and little kids play it.


I would also like to use this post to ask any of our members who have anything to admit to come out and do so. We specifically asked you not to break any of their rules. Now would be a good time to come out about it, if you did.

 

[DamageINC]

First off the above chat log is proof of nothing.

Second, Wally cant follow each and every member around to every server and babysit them. There is only so much a leader can do. I find it funny you say we treat players like "property" and in the same post say WaLLy doesn't do a good job on controlling people on OTHER servers. We don't control our players like they are property.

All i see in your post is you coming here and trashing our clan with baseless accusations and ZERO proof of anything.

If you would actually post chat logs on Google just to try and trash our clan, it seems you are the petty an immature one, not us. That's basically doing everything you accuse this krew of doing and taking it two steps further. Don't come here and make stupid little threats like that, it's lame.

Your post seems to lump in the ENTIRE krew , yet you only have one small bit of chat (that shows no wrong doing) to back it up. I would venture to say 80% of our members don't even know your server's IP.

In the end it seems you are the one coming here and creating a post that trashes our entire krew with baseless accusations and making little kiddy threats about putting up chat logs on Google. I mean seriously?

We have been around for years, we've had some of the most highly ranked servers in all of COD, so don't come here and tell us why our servers aren't' doing well and why you are so much better.

The DUdes OP was respectful, asked all of our members to be respectful, not troll etc and act like adults, and here you are doing the opposite. Can you show us one post on your forum from our members that trashes you "not clan" and makes threats. I doubt it.

Grow up.

 

[TheDude]

I think we should be talking this out on teamspeak or skype, because dealing with stuff of this nature is REALLY frustrating through forum text.

I also think that chat log is modified (some left out), but I don't remember the full details of the conversation.


PLEASE ALL MEMBERS REFRAIN FROM TRASH-TALKING OR DISRESPECTING THIS PERSON OR THEIR SITE (NON-CLAN) I understand their post here is very inflammatory, and many of you probably have very different views than those expressed in said post, but trash-talking or anything like that at this point will pose only problems for us in the future relations with these people.

Thank you.


"Wally (batman) is either doing a terrible job at controlling his clan, or he went along with this. It is the only 2 options." - This line of text is baseless and quite simply a direct attack on a completely innocent person in all of this.

 

[TheDude]

Come on.... dude i don't wanna start shit with their clan, even if they wanna start shit with us.

I just wanna be able to play on their servers and such. I find this terribly frustrating.

 

[DamageINC]

Unfortunately, at least one of our members WAS recruiting and giving out IP's to our servers on theirs. The chat log in on there forum. However, i only see one ban appeal from our krew.

 

[Ethan]

He'll come backing saying his FBI mom will ban us all from the internet, most likely.

I'm done.

- - - Updated - - -

Unfortunately, at least one of our members WAS recruiting and giving out IP's to our servers, the chat log is on there forums.

Well that can be handled privately then. Case closed (least for me).

 

[DamageINC]

I sent Doomz a PM. He always seemed like an OK guy. And yes, i was very respectful.

Hopefully we can put this crap behind us.

 

[TheDude]

Unfortunately, at least one of our members WAS recruiting and giving out IP's to our servers on theirs. The chat log in on there forum. However, i only see one ban appeal from our krew.

This should be dealt with. I mean, we can't ask them to unban anyone who was actually recruiting on their servers. That's just ridiculous. Also, I hope that this person realizes how their actions have affected everyone else in the krew.


Yea, Doomz was always very respectful and down to earth.

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i JUST HAD A THOUGHT.

If this post isn't actually written by Gal or Doomz or any of the founders/admins of the other server, it may just be written by some moderator that they have little or no control over. It could be that they have a bad mod making bans that they don't know about, and it's simply hard for them to do anything about it? Who knows?

I really have trouble believing doomzday is behind any of this.

 

[Jack]

^Like I said before, Doomz came here and apologised to us, he was respectful and understanding and said he wasn't behind the banning of our players, I have a feeling its just some of their mods that are over protective of their server and swing the ban hammer at the first hint of another clan who might, possibly, maybe try and recruit or draw people away.

 

[TheDude]

Right. What makes me think you're right especially is how poorly written the reply that supposedly represents the views of all of 24-7Broadcast.com is. I just can't wrap my head around it. I await Doomz's reply with anticipation.

 

[HIBred]

I don't see them banning KKK on sight..or at least i have never been even remotely hassled.
Maybe I'm wrong but it's their server and they can keep it clean to their standards and their own judgements of what constitutes "trolling" or recruitment is ultimately their choice. It's really none of our business as we should be concentrating on keeping our servers a friendly and inviting place to game.

 

[TheDude]

You're not wrong, and we are focusing on getting our own servers running and keeping them clean.

We're also not in the business of forcing anyone to do anything differently with their own servers, and this is no exception. Having a gripe with how we are treated is a different story.

This issue was one I thought needed addressing.

Tito also told me in the shout that he was explicitly told to relate to us from the other forum that anyone with our tags on would be banned.