The Official Bind Rule Thread

[TheDude]

HEY!!!!!

So.... as you know, you can write a lot of stuff with the console in cod4. There are website that give binds that do anything from firing super fast with a g3 to removing shadows at a button press to making bolt action snipers fire like semi-auto snipers WHILE SCOPED to doing 360's to even borderline INFECTION level binds.


So, do we allow these binds? No. Here is the thread: http://krewgaming.com/showthread.php/6042-Binds-that-run-multiple-commands


Do we allow binds? Yes. Your binds can do anything that doesn't change game dynamics (basically anything that doesn't run multiple ingame commands with a signle button press)

Yes. We know there is hardware that lets you do this. Yes we know the game developers forgot to remove this ability, or didn't think it would make a difference. Yes, we are all fkin' smart and we have considered everything.

Of course, at the discretion of admins and moderators, these binds are allowed in special matches, low player matches, and on other servers (other than the populated Broadcast servers...) when the instance allows.

This game is QUITE playable without the use of these binds, and is just as fun. And if you can't do the same shit you can do WITH the binds, obviously something is wrong.

The people who complain about this rule have been WITHOUT EXCEPTION people who (in regular play... every day play) use binds that run these sort of commands.

So, waiting on admins to correct me, i will try to word the appropriate rule. Obviously, no one wants to limit gameplay. I had these binds months before ANYONE ELSE IN THE KREW. This is not my doing. It's just something we all had to consider once the issue became prevalent.

The Rule:

Binds that run multiple commands that inherently change a players ability on our servers are banned. This rule is a part of the "No Glitching" and "No Cheating" rules.






Now, in afterthought, it would be REALLY nice to get a b3 add-on that can kick based on what key-binds a person has. I have been on servers that auto-kick for scrollfire. We don't need to do that specifically, but obviously the ability is a plus.

 

[Titoezz]

There will always be different opinions about players using these binds, mainly because some people cant see the difference between a bind and fast finger movement. Having a rule like that wont work as you would expect it to, imo.

Also, either your first alinea or the part where it says "So, do we allow these binds? No." needs to be changed, as i dont think you would ban people for turning off shadows in Options or 360'ing consistently instead of by mouse movement. Bit extreme if you ask me.

 

[HIBred]

Noob question,this would include the wep switch wait,blahblah,wep switch, bind to cancel reload?
i don't have it but if thats the case i may need some instruction on how to spot that..

 

[felon]

Noob question,this would include the wep switch wait,blahblah,wep switch, bind to cancel reload?
i don't have it but if thats the case i may need some instruction on how to spot that..

There's no difference between using that and just double tapping weapon switch...

 

[SiloHunter]

The next time you post a link you should probably make it one everyone can see.

 

[Ethan]

Good post TD.

This is a common problem in COD..which we really haven't had many problems with on our servers from my knowledge, but still something to look out for.

I'd also like to point out not to overuse regular word binds. Yes, I am known for using my "You Just Got ClayMowed, Congratulations" bind every match, but even I try to limit it only to times when I feel it is correct (Example: Someone is shooting at me in close quarters, I place a clay and kill them, and then I use the bind.)

There is no need to spam binds every time you've killed someone or vice versa. Even if it is as simple as "Nice shot", it can get annoying and distracting to other players in the server.
I'm not trying to make a rule like TD...more of a suggestion.

 

[MikeK]

The next time you post a link you should probably make it one everyone can see.

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[HIBred]

There's no difference between using that and just double tapping weapon switch...

yeah that's what i mean,they look exactly the same so how would we know if it was a bind or just dexterous use of finger movements..i guess just asking..

 

[TheDude]

The next time you post a link you should probably make it one everyone can see.

^This was for the staff to check the thread.

@ Hibred, if this rule can be enforced by autokick, that would be better. No one is going to get kicked for things that a normal human can achieve, otherwise. No one here is superman, though, and I think our mods can differentiate. I know I can. Of course, I'm expecting certain people to test our mods, having seen this statement. That would also answer Tito's question, i think.

Harmlessly changing weapons quickly will not result in a ban. This rule has been around for quite some time.... other staff members can agree on that as they can see the thread where the discussion is found. I do believe that that thread was not the first time the issue was dealt with, nor was it the first time a decision had been reached.

This rule is not here because anyone is butthurt. This rule is here to prevent cheating and to give moderators the ability to legally deal with certain cheaters.

@Felon, in most cases the same result can be acquired simply by double-tapping the weapon change key, whether it is your mouse wheel, 1, Q, or w/e. However, there are certain distinct advantages that these binds (including the fastswap) will allow, which is why this is a rule. For instance, if you notice someone like titoezz or even myself 6 months ago playing, sometimes it will seem like they go right from sprinting to firing with 0 time delay.... this is almost only achievable with a fastswap bind, though I'm sure if you wanted to practice it, you could do the glitch without a bind.

And @ tito - Do we allow these binds? No. Will you get perm banned for using them? No, certainly not right away. Will you get perm banned if you constantly break any rule (such as no bouncing on server 1... COUGH SOULG) after countless administrative actions? Yes.


@ Ethan - We already ask people not to spam. It's not an issue of cheating, however. That discussion is more of a grey area, whereas this one is pretty clear-cut.

The above stated rule is concerning cheating using ANY bind that changes the way you play by using more than 1 command.

Screwing around on your own server or our unpopulated servers is fine, IMO, but I'll leave that one up to the admins to comment on more thoroughly.


So just to clarify, this rule was not brought about because people got butthurt about someone using the fastswap bind. I was the first one in this krew AFAIK to use that bind over a year ago. I had no problem with it then, but I am now on board with the rest of our krewmunity on the rule stated above. This rule isn't even because of that bind. The rule is an extension of our other rules..... this thread is just a clarification.

Thankyou for your time and patience.